Episode 1: Untangling The Relationship with Ourselves

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"Ep. 1 Untangling The Relationship With Ourselves " begins with Janae welcoming the listeners to "Untangling Relationships", a podcast she co-hosts with Penny. They introduce themselves, share their backgrounds, and discuss their generational differences. The episode also dives into their plans for the new year, focusing on personal goals. Each host discusses their unique goals and check-ins with their bodies. They also discuss setting boundaries with outside influences, the importance of keeping a close circle and dealing with others' opinions. The jovial back-and-forth concludes with what they're looking forward to in the next week.


Ep. 1 Untangling The Relationship With Ourselves

Janae: [00:00:00] Welcome to Untangling Relationships, a conversation between a counselor and a yoga teacher, a Gen Xer and a millennial, and a mother and daughter. Join us as we explore the ins and outs of relationships with your host, Janae and Penny.

Woohoo . Hello and welcome. Welcome to you and welcome to 2023.

Also, welcome to our first podcast. Episode woo, woo, woo, . We're really excited to get this podcast going and to start us off, we're just gonna do some introductions. I'll let Penny lead here and let her tell us what she wants us to know about herself. .

Penney: So I'm Penny and as Janae said in the podcast, I am her mom and I am a Gen Xer, the forgotten, ignored generation. We get no mention anywhere except for here. Gen Xers exist, we're out there, . And that I am also a licensed professional counselor in the state of [00:01:00] Idaho and have had my license since 2009. Been working in the mental health field since, ooh, a really long time.

2004, 2005. So that's it.

Janae: You forgot to mention I have siblings . Oh. Oh,

Penney: I have to. I am a mother of more than just one child. . I guess that's important for Janee for everyone to know. That I have three other children and I also have three stepchildren and going to be a grandma in the next 14. For the first grandbaby within the next 14 days.

We'll see if she comes early. Her dad was right on time, so she might be too . We'll see .

Janae: Awesome. I will go ahead and introduce myself. My name's Janae and I am a. Self-proclaimed millennial. Woohoo, . But also, yeah, I'm a yoga teacher. I've been teaching yoga since 2015, [00:02:00] 2016 when I got certified. And then I got certified as a trauma yoga teacher in 2020.

A good year for that. , that's a trauma. Of year 2020. 2020 was for all of us. I live in Idaho Falls and I run a little yoga studio out of Idaho Falls, and I have three cats and a wonderful partner. And yeah, that's me.

Penney: So curiosity for those listening. Why self-proclaimed ? Millennial?

Janae: I do feel like we get a really bad rap.

I feel like Gen X, it's better to be forgotten than better to be everyone's. Crapping post . We were for so long of goddamn millennials, they're

Penney: the worst . Well, I think for Gen X though, it's definitely that we were the whatever generation, cause we just didn't care about anything, so we didn't have an identity.

And it's funny that we have continued to go down as not having an identity. So in that way, kind of [00:03:00] funny.

Janae: It is funny because yeah, if you were to ask me what are the stereotypes linked with that generation, I wouldn't really know what to say. In some ways that's helpful. . Yeah.

Penney: We're the whatever generation, we don't care.

We are actually getting to the age where we're gonna start to take over running the world. So maybe people will have to start noticing this a little bit as the, the boomers pass and we come into power. So woo, people might start to notice us a little more.

Janae: Running the world and coming into power.

That's a scary part. However,

Penney: it's whatever we don't care. So, exactly. There you go

Janae: on brand. I was actually listening to a different podcast and they were talking about the phrase millennial, the millennial Pause which is basically anytime a millennial's recording a video of themselves and posting on social media, they will hit the record button and it will have a, a few second pause that they're making sure that it's recording and how it's infuriating to the younger [00:04:00] generations.

they grew up recording themselves. They know how to do it, and they trust the technology to just do it. And they start talking and yeah, millennials are, they're starting to show their age, . And yeah, there is a whole like Times article about how yeah, we're phasing out. We were the first generation to be all in the technology and we're the, we'll be the first generation to phase out of it.

Which was weird to read. ,

Penney: As I've talked to Gen Xers about starting a podcast some history on that, I am a little less excited to do a podcast than Janae is in. I roped her into it, in stereotype, right, with the generations and as I talk to others. Their opinion is very much the same. Keep it short cuz we have, we don't wanna have it be over like 20, 30 minutes, which is definitely how our conversations have gone between Janae and I, and we're not big podcast listeners, so there might be other ones.

That's just my sampling of people that I've talked to that are in that Gen X generation, that we're, we're less podcasters. So if I have a choice between [00:05:00] listen or watching something or reading it, I always choose read,

Janae: I would say. Listening and reading are probably tied. Although I do really love watching things.

I don't know. I dunno if I could choose . I like all the content. I like all the long content. I would, I listen to hours of podcast episodes a week. So . Yeah, I cannot relate. But yeah, I think that is a generational thing. Although if you're a Gen Xer, let us know. , do you listen to podcasts? Let your voice be heard or don't

Penney: or whatever.

Exactly. .

Janae: All right. Let's get into our first few questions. So the subject or the theme for this first episode as we're coming into the new year is new Year Relationship. , me, myself, and I [00:06:00] focusing on maybe personal goals or things that you have planned for yourself for the new year. Although we did have the conversation of, we're not entirely sure when this episode will come out.

So if this is coming out in May, maybe it's time to relook at those resolutions. , maybe it's time to remember back to January and check in with how you're. . So the first question we have here is how do you plan to feed your relationship with yourself in the new year? Any thoughts? , ?

Penney: I guess if you read the question, then I have to answer first.

Is that how this works? I think so. Okay. So how do I plan to feed my relationship with myself in the new year? Mm. . Good question. Always. Well, actually, I would say refocusing for me is trying to make sure in between sessions making sure that I am walking and I'm stretching and taking care of my [00:07:00] body, also, feeding my body well, instead of just eating for energy, eating the right things for energy.

drinking lots of water, which for me is easy. I actually really love water. When people talk about water, not tasting good or not having good flavor shocks me. Yeah, I don't, I don't get those people . I'm a big fan of that. So drinking water, that's easy for me. And then as always travel is really important for me.

I've gotta. Mexico trip booked end of January. I already have a couple of concerts booked for summer and more travel in the summer and probably something else mid-summer, and then always something big in the fall. So for me, getting away and taking time to, to refuel myself outside lots of fresh air, not a lot of people is really important for me.

So those are. we used to feel myself in with my body and my relationship. And something that I have been working on probably like [00:08:00] five years is sleep When Fitbits first came out, which might be longer ago than five years, I'm not sure. And they started tracking your sleep, I realized that I still kept about three and a half hours of sleep.

So when Janae was born sh I was really excited that she slept through the night. Because she would sleep for three hours at a time, . And I was really excited to have a baby that did that cuz her two older siblings were not great about that. And that's when in my brain I decided three hours of sleep was plenty for me.

And so that is what I continued to do for the next 20 years. And I've made it a goal to try and get longer amounts of sleep and I am up to five and a half, sometimes an average of six hours. I think my ending total last year average was between five and a half and six. big strides. I've doubled the amount of time in five years.

I might make it to my goal of being having seven maybe by the end of this year. That's my goal.

Janae: Yeah. That is leaps and bounds when you think of it as going so long with such [00:09:00] low amounts to then Yeah. In just a few years of getting almost doubling it. Yeah. That's awesome. I do know that seven is a recommended no more, no less.

Penney: Yeah. Supposed to help with. and aging better and brain development, and I'd like to keep my brain, so Yep. Goal of

Janae: seven. Yep. You know, as the, one of the four options to take care of you. I'd also like you to keep your brain for as long as possible. Yeah. .

Penney: Yeah, that makes sense, .

Janae: All right. Are there any big changes that you noticed between goals from this year and the goals from last?

Penney: No, not really. Maybe more movement in between sessions. But other than that, no. I definitely think at this point I know what works really well for me and trying to maintain that is important and always for me, creating a work-life balance. Life work balance. If you wanna say it the other way is [00:10:00] paramount, it's definitely.

phase of my life where it's like, earn as much money as I can so I don't have to do it anymore, is kind of where the mentality is. And I am a, a conquest kind of person, so if you put a goal in front of me, I just go for it. And balance is important in that. Hmm.

Janae: A little bit to that passed on. Definitely.

For sure. I relate to that. . All right, well I'll guess I'll an answer this question. How do I plan on feeding my relationship with myself in the coming year? I think continuing to get better at listening is going to be the top part of my goal around my body and, and myself. Last year I feel like there was quite a lot of new revelations.

, body that came up around some new mental health diagnosises and new prescriptions and then new diets and, and trying to figure out [00:11:00] in that kind of aftermath of all of that that happened in the last half of last year to figure out, okay, where do I go from here? And being able to listen and understand or bring more understanding to what I'm noticing day to day.

I want to try and work more in rhythms instead of in schedules and hopes that that will be less of a rigid structure, that it, there's not a pass or fail . So that's kind of a goal. And yeah, I'm really liking the new app that we're using that reminds us to do the little stretches frequently throughout the day.

that actually, ironically enough, as the yoga teacher part of this when I'm sitting at my desk for long hours, I'm like, my body feels trashed. Those reminders, even I need them to, to yeah, move around. So I guess those are my big ones. I think the last big one is really figuring out my relationship [00:12:00] with food this year.

I think I had a little bit of progress with that last year. I've hit a little bit of turmoil and I'm excited slash. Yeah, I guess excited, but not, I don't know, , I have mixed feelings about it, of continuing to figure that all out, allowing it to be more of a journey than a destination, I guess. All right.

Changes.

Penney: That was the other next question you asked me. Yes. Anything you see different last

Janae: year to. last year, I don't think I made any body goals. I don't remember making any specific goals around my body. A lot of them were more work goals and like personal productivity goals. And I do have a few more of those this year, or I do have a few of them this year, but I don't have as many and I think that's probably a good sign of maybe backing off a little bit.

I've recently realized. , I kind of treat my life a little bit [00:13:00] like a productivity robot of, or like a never-ending DIY project of, you know, leveling up constantly figuring out what do I need to do next to do better, be better and get better in all the areas of my life. And sometimes it's okay to just say, we're taking a pause.

I also noticed that when you're constantly learning new things or learning new skills or striving for more and more and more, you don't take the time to reflect on what you have learned and implement it. So maybe more this year is my more year of implementation. . Fingers crossed we can do it. So yeah.

Anything that, Gets in the way of these goals. And how can you get tangled slash untangled? We can maybe take a view of both of them, as in what's, what's possible, barriers that could get in your way, and what are some things that [00:14:00] you have in place that you know are some supports that you can have to help you along the way?

Penney: For me, if we're talking about the sleep, , what gets in the way is not getting home some nights until eight, some nights until eight 30, where I start at 7:00 AM often, and my, if my goal is to be in bed at 10, winding down at nine 30, that really only gives me an hour and a half of time with my partner.

Time with my daughter that is still at home and time to eat and do anything around the house. So I would say that's one of the big barriers to being able to maintain that sleep schedule. . Other barriers to taking time to stretch in between sessions is paperwork. The never ending battle of paperwork.

If you were thinking about becoming a coun, a counselor, or anything in the mental health field, just know there's a lot of paperwork, and, and making paperwork, [00:15:00] returning messages, and returning phone calls and emails, and all the communication pieces as a priority over taking care of my body and myself.

Those definitely become barriers to success and always when we're talking about travel and taking care of me in that way there's definitely a feeling of abandoning my business if I'm take too much time and financial responsibilities and obligations. Cuz if you. The, the clashing of I need to earn as much money so I don't have to do this anymore and I wanna travel and spend money and take time off.

Those things don't necessarily mesh really well together. And so trying to find balance between those two pieces, I would say are big parts for me on things that could potentially make them get tangled. And what are your supports? My supports I have an office partner Jenny, who is amazing. Her and I have been colleagues and friends since [00:16:00] 2012, so for 10 years now, and she's good at calling me out and a good place to process and bounce things when I get really stuck in my head and asking the hard questions.

So she's a, a great support and friend with that. and I definitely get gentle reminders from children

Janae: and , sometimes not so gentle , depending on who it's,

Penney: yeah. And my partner who reminds me sometimes that he's important too and needs to be noticed and to foster and nurture our relationship on top of everything else.

So yeah, I would say those are, are the supports around that. I

Janae: love that. I love that all of your supports are. Oh yeah, we were talking about before we started recording the, those importance of connections. That's

Penney: awesome. Mm-hmm. And for you,

Janae: The things I could see myself getting tangled up in with my goals.

Perfectionism always there, always the [00:17:00] problem. And probably just like mental health things in general, which is just a never ending. Fun project that you get to figure out. I mean, as you know, on both sides of that, I'm sure. But yeah, just, I think that's why the rhythms goals maybe are gonna be really helpful.

Viewing things more as an ebb and flow and allowing for maybe, I saw something online actually that called it, if you're in your, if you're in a stage of death or hibernation in your. , that's okay. You know that, you know, however long amount of time you'll come back into a more rebirthing period. I was like, that's such a beautiful way of looking at it.

I can definitely look back in times of my life where it was a death period, whether it was like a death of a past self or you know, family members or whatever, but like death of a career or thoughts of who you thought you were, where your life was going. So, Yeah, sorry, got off track, but getting into like understanding that there's rhythms, [00:18:00] there's ebbs and flows, and allowing that to just be how we live.

And as we all know, humans, we're not supposed to just be robots. Like we have ebbs and flows. So allowing that to be at the center front of. when I'm checking in with my goals, when I'm checking in with myself throughout the year of, of that being a reminder of, it's okay, it doesn't have to look perfect.

And you know, there's an extreme amount of perfectionism. Anytime you look at anything diet-wise, food-wise, health-wise, and whatever I can do to dismantle that within myself creates even more room to help others than I work with to also dismantle those beliefs, which is a core. what I do what I see is what I do with making spaces for people to just show up without shame, and I think it all starts inward.

Being able to do that with myself first. So that's kind of the biggest things that I see of more [00:19:00] just internal, internal things. Although I do relate to your the, the problem. Feeling like the schedule's really booked and there's not enough time to really take care of yourself. I've definitely run into that too.

And then some supports therapy, probably the biggest support for those things. , but also calling on my people who I know can be there to talk through things. You know, good. and obviously our relationship is really important for bouncing things around like that. And yeah, Brooklyn, my partner, very much so.

Support as well. And yeah, I think that, I think that's it. So cool. All right, so we're now going to hop into what. , I'm so, so cleverly calling . It [00:20:00] takes two to tango, . So this is basically where we talk about maybe the other people or factors that could be coming into the relationship. And today's relationship that we're talking about is with ourselves.

So the first question is, who in your life do you see as a big support for your relationship with? . I think we

Penney: kind of covered that, right? The who helps us in supporting our goals around ourself and

Janae: those people. Yeah, I think so too. I can't think of anyone else who, I do think it's interesting that we make these goals very much so independently, but then the biggest supports that both of us identified are connections with people.

and maybe there's a link there of like, I don't know, , what, what [00:21:00] would it look like if we made more collective goals, I guess, or what does it look like when you are able to talk about your goals? I know I've definitely. had things going on in my life that I'm like, I wanna work towards this. I wanna be able to do this.

And then being afraid of failure or afraid of talking about it. And it's kept me from telling people about it and getting that support that I need and how that is such like a pitfall to being able to have support and be successful. So yeah, just a reminder, maybe if that's something that you're going through right now.

As a listener, talk about it. Talk to the people in your life. If you need help, reach out. .

Penney: actually was just thinking that often when we talk about sharing goals that accountability piece that comes in are like accountability partners. And I was just thinking, I actually really don't like that.

I do talk a lot about my goals and maybe because they're the same ones year to year, so they're works in progress and I'm okay [00:22:00] discussing those. And I don't share 'em with people so that people can hold me accountable. I share 'em with people because. We process things as we talk about 'em, and so every time I talk through that with somebody in my support system, I think of something else or something else comes up around what that looks like and ways to be able to move forward in that.

And I, and I think I was looking for that compassion piece of, yeah, that's hard and I've been through that too. Here's what I've done, or here's ways that I am combating those. I think a good majority of us are working on a, a life work balance and trying to figure out what all of that means. So that's pretty common.

Janae: Yeah, I can definitely relate to. . Having someone that after you tell them about something that you're working towards, then it feels like, oh, great, another person that will just catch me out when I'm not doing it right, , like, that's not what I need.

Penney: definitely not. No.

Janae: Oh [00:23:00] yeah. It was an interesting period between my partner and I, I'm in school.

Trying to be more open with him about, I'm behind, or, you know, things are getting bad, or like, I'm feeling really overwhelmed and stressed and then being able to communicate like, I'm telling you this, not because I need a school mom to, you know, scold me or give me a schedule or remind me that I have homework to do.

I know I have homework to do. internally, it's constantly flagging through my brain every five seconds of, you should be doing this right now. I don't, you know, you don't need an extra reminder. And being able to communicate that to him and you know, other people and other goals has been, it's been interesting conversations and also, It was a, there was a confusing period where I thought that's what I needed him to do and I had asked him to do that and then it backfired and I was like, it really brought out the rebellion in me of like, screw you.

I can do what I want. [00:24:00] had the opposite effect, . So yeah, I like that you brought that up of if you're talking to people and you need support or you're talking to people and you just want them to know what you have going on in your life, maybe. Yeah. Recognizing. , I think it's good to have people who know what you're working towards, but not to have people, like I said, that are just kind of waiting around the corner to catch you when you're not doing it right, or, or anything that could add an extra layer of shame around, quote unquote failing for me is an, is OB obvious?

No. Go so,

Penney: Hopefully this is an okay share, but there has been one goal that Janae has been working on the last few months and some of the wording that she's used around it are, I don't need support with this right now. And it's been really helpful to know when to step in and offer to make accommodations or adjustments and when it's okay to just let that be what it is.

And so maybe that's a way to phrase [00:25:00] that as you're sharing that, not I need you to hold me accountable, but just letting people to know when you need support and what kind of support you need being really upfront of like, I need you to check in with me about this, or I need you. just to hear me when I'm really struggling with where to go with this or I need someone just to bounce ideas off of.

So I think being really clear about needs is important around these goals and what our supports look

Janae: like. Yeah, definitely. I think sometimes they can, they can be such new, newer challenges or new things that you're working through that a bunch of outside opinions or help doesn't feel helpful until you have your bearings.

you know, to be doggy paddling but still swimming. And then you can maybe get people to help you tread more, tread water more efficiently, I think. But yeah. Okay. How do you set boundaries and communicate those boundaries with people who aren't supports or maybe on the [00:26:00] opposite side of. Of your goals if there are people in your life.

And if there aren't maybe some help for people who do have those people , because I definitely know I definitely know friends and me as a past, past relationships I've had. I know there, I've definitely been in that situation. So how do you hold those boundaries? ?

Penney: I don't, I might need to think about that one for a minute.

Definitely at this phase of my life and maybe just more of a I guess, personal information about me growing up, we moved every year, so me keeping large groups of people around me has never been a thing because people come and go. So actually the fact that I've had Jenny as a friend for 10 years is.

Probably some sort of a record for me actually. In fact, I think, I definitely think it is. So I don't, I guess I keep my circle small. That's one way I set boundaries [00:27:00] and I. . I'm really thoughtful about who I share with and who I don't. And if you're somebody who I don't think is a support for me, I'm probably not going to share with you.

I'm people definitely fit into categories, and if you're not in that inner circle, and it's probably not a conversation I'm going to have, I guess if I. , and, and maybe I do in this way, that I'll run into people that are very critical about like how many hours I should be practicing and what my practice should look like.

Lots of should, should. There's a shaming word. It's not my favorite word. I don't like it . And so when I hear people starting to should on me and I feel that shame from that I'm pretty quick to change the topic, distance, the conversation, or Just not engage in that because I don't need shoulds, I don't need people to should on me.

Doing my best to balance. Not that I'm not open to support, but I am also, but I'm not [00:28:00] open to shoulds and shaming. So definitely relationships I feel like that are not relationships that I bring into my life and they're not relationships I keep in my life and. , and I think there's always that show around finances.

I know that's pretty common and there's been a lot of that probably from, well from all sides. And I'm, I, I guess one example that I hear often and then I've heard a little bit within my own life is my partner and I don't share finances, which shocks some people. . But we don't, we have always kept 'em separate and we have conversations about finances, but it's not a shared endeavor between the two of us.

And so we might have separate financial goals and in common financial goals. and we have a division of labor when it comes to that in our house. And so there's a lot of shoulds [00:29:00] around that and around how much money are you saving? Where are you spending it? What kind of car do you drive? That's how, that's funny because that is something that we've gotten a lot of for a lot of information from people about, I guess is a nice way to say that.

Opinions, yes. I wanted . Yes, . We, we are definitely, you buy it and drive it to the wheels, fall off kind of people. So we don't upgrade our cars often and we don't drive really nice vehicles and they're reliable and one amazing talent that my husband. you can fix about anything. So, , I don't worry if it's older cuz he'll fix it.

And I appreciate that so much about him and his ability to do that. So yeah, people do have a lot of opinions about the vehicles we drive and how do I set boundaries around that? I just say, Hey, mine's paid for . There you go. And it doesn't cause me a whole lot of money to fix it, and I can take that money and I can use it somewhere else.

So I don't need the latest and [00:30:00] greatest. In fact, I'm good. , old and reliable. And that's, that's far more my, my place to go with that. So I guess in summary, for me, it's, I don't listen to other people's opinions. I'm a little bit oppositional defiant, so if you give me too much of your opinion, you push me too far, I'm gonna tell you where to get off.

And sometimes in a nice way and sometimes not in a nice way. So I keep my circle tight and I don't bring people into my circle that are not helpful for my. . Hmm. Don't waste energy on that.

Janae: I think one of the biggest things that I am hearing in your reflections is the common, a lot of the common thread is having a strong enough internal trust for your own path.

The decisions that you're making, the way you've chosen to handle things, that if people want to tell you their opinions, . [00:31:00] It's neither here nor there because you know what you're doing and you have the internal yeah. My mom used to call that stubborn .

Penney: Probably still would. Mine did too. If you, if you were to talk to my mom, she would say, I've always been stubborn and I've always been very strong in my own opinions and very self-directed and self-led.

So def, that's definitely my personality. So I guess for me it's less about setting boundaries around people's opinions because that's never really been an issue for

Janae: me. Hmm. I can definitely see where that could be helpful though, for people who maybe struggle with that. Is rebuild that trustworthy yourself, rebuild the, the inner strengthened knowledge.

One, it's your life, . Yep. And two, you are doing what you want with it. Like, it doesn't matter what so-and-so sees or feels or, and I a hundred percent agree with you. If it's reliably working, don't get a new one because it's double better to [00:32:00] have the devil that you know, . Well, you don't Yeah.

Penney: When it comes to cards.

Yeah, definitely. But I like that having strong internal trust. I. , if that's something that's an issue and it comes up around boundaries with people. Yeah. Build it in yourself and then be okay telling people That doesn't fit with my value system. And you don't have to listen to that. You can set the boundary and say, thanks for no thanks.

Mm-hmm. .

Janae: And that's okay. Maybe, yeah, maybe that's the part too, of growing the courage to, to talk to people in your life that maybe feel like they have more control than they should. and. . You know, maybe re I'm making a pushing motion. It's, it's an audio podcast you can't see. . .

Penney: I start reminding parents that they have zero control over their child's behavior.

I mean, really, at least from the time they're toddlers. You might have some influence, but you don't have control. So I think remembering people can tell [00:33:00] you their opinion, but they don't have control over your life. You get to run the show. And as a parent with adult children or adolescents, or any other age, remember, you don't have control.

So don't try and do that. influence and model, but don't control it doesn't work.

Janae: Yeah. Generally just backfires, I feel like.

Penney: Yeah. Just sometimes it's best to keep your opinions to yourself. Yeah. Well,

Janae: and also there's always the, the natural consequences, positive or negative. Yep. To whatever is, comes, whatever way it does.

Yep. Alright, well we've come to the end, our last two little. Segments here, where we're going to spin the wheel and answer a question. , today's questions are about the body. And we've got our fun little wheel here from Hijacked from the board game Life ,

Penney: which I always went out. That's my favorite game.

Janae: I just find it ironic that we are spinning the wheel of life here. Yes. [00:34:00] Okay, so I'm gonna spin first and so I'll answer first. Oh, that was not a good spin.

So, let's see what I landed on here. Question is, it's either even or odd, and I got uneven. So what does it mean to check in with your body? To me, checking in with your body means

not ignoring it.

 And you, you can either be systematic about checking in with your body. I know people that it's like every time they look down at their phone, they, before they relock it, they take 30 seconds to do a check-in. Or you can be more free flowing with it. That's what I tend to do. Just pausing and noticing.

I do think. , it's, it's important to recognize, recognize that being able to check [00:35:00] in with your body is a skill and it is a practice. And there are a lot of people that either have fallen out of the practice or were never taught that skill. if you are that person, then just know that there are a lot of tools available to you to be able to rebuild or to.

But yeah, just checking in and noticing either physically, how am I feeling, or mentally, emotionally, how am I feeling? What's going on right now? And then the second part that I think a lot of people forget is then responding. That's how you build the practice. That's how you build trust with yourself of, if I'm feeling X I'm going to respond with Y, not, oh, I'm feeling X.

And then, , I'm gonna just plow through with the rest of my day and ignore . You know, if you're thirsty, you drink, right? If you're hungry, you eat, or you know, that's on the simplest terms. But, so that's what I think it means to check in with your body. It's very important practice, and I think it's something that isn't expressly taught [00:36:00] and it's not something that is put forward as.

a important piece in our society that I wish was I do think it's getting better, but I, I wish it was taught a little bit better and better understood. So yeah. All right, you're up. Don't spin it too loudly. .

Penney: It can be a little vigorous

Janae: Oh my. Hold on.

Penney: Gonna hold it in place and then spin it.

Janae: It's a much better

Penney: spin. I got an odd Oh, perfect. Which is, what are your plans to take care of your body in the new year? Eating movement, time outside and. . I am also big on checking in with my body and seeing where I need to stretch and where I need to move in between sessions or at the beginning or end of my day.

Nice.

Janae: All right. Rapid fire. Are you ready? Yes. I feel like this is cheating. [00:37:00] You can read the

Penney: questions . Well, you're gonna answer 'em too, aren't you? Are we gonna do both? Okay. . So we'll take turns. You, us the first one. I'll

Janae: ask the second one. Okay. What book are you reading right now? I'm reading the

Penney: Spell Monger series by Terry Manor.

Nice.

Janae: Do I answer it now? Yes. Okay. See, sorry folks. This is the first time we're doing this . I just finished the book that I was reading actually a few hours ago, and I haven't started anything new, although I am in the middle of actually Memorial by Brian Washington. So I guess I am physical books. I'm, I take a little bit longer to get through

Mm-hmm. .

Penney: Okay. Next question. What was the last song you listened to and loved?

Janae: I didn't think that I was gonna be answering these when I wrote them. I mean, obviously I knew, but , it's a hard one. The last thing I listened to as I was coming into the office to do this was a song called Bridges. Bridges by Khali. And I really love that song. I was jamming out and belting it out, warming up my.

For the [00:38:00] podcast .

Penney: The last song that I listened to was my partner was playing Stairway to Heaven by Led Zeppelin. He also played Pink Floyd after that, but loved, I prefer Led Zeppelin over Pink Floyd .

Janae: All right, last one. What is something you are looking forward to throughout the next week?

Penney: The weekend and feeling accomplished that the week is, and hopefully getting to spend some time outside and some time in my shop doing some woodworking.

Nice.

Janae: I am looking forward to next week. I hope of, hopefully go skiing. I haven't gone cross country skiing all year for various reasons, and now it's gone so long that I'm realiz. , I've rebuilt up the fear of doing it that I had conquered last year. So hopefully I will be going skiing this weekend to nip that in the bud.

Remind myself that it's [00:39:00] not, it's not bad. And if I fall, or you know, if I'm not good or faceted, if I've lost all of the skills that I had gained last year, it doesn't matter. We'll just start over.

Penney: Muscle memory, that would be good. Yes.

Janae: Fingers crossed. . All right, so that's all we have. Any last thoughts?

Penney: No, I think we made it through our first episode. Thanks for joining us and we'll look forward to this again.

Janae: Yeah. Woo. Next week we've got

mother and daughter Relat. That'll be fun. Yeah, that will be fun. Join us for that one. All right, thanks. And as Penny said, we'll catch you next time. Bye bye.

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